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right now is in the united states senate. here's what we know. the cloture vote which ends the debate has taken place, and it has passed. now we're on the bill which would reopen the government, and it would for a period of time, and it would avoid a default for the u.s. government. that will once it has passed the canadsenate will head to the hof representatives. we're expecting that vote will take place the next couple of hours. we will see what happens, but standing by with me now is a mike viqueira hat the white at e house, and libby casey. what do we know about the vote in the house? >> well, we expect to see that unfold this evening, john, and as you mentioned we're watching the final vote take place. once that gets wrapped up we expect to see democrats in the senate do a little bit of a victory press conference. meanwhile, the actual go over and the house will unfold there. they will get the magic number. that's what we're anticipating,
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enough republicans will side with democrats to see that pass the house. and the democrats had been whipping the vote. they've been going around, doing the county, encouraging their members to stand in line. democrats would love to see one solid body not the actions that are dividing the republican party but not-to-have the contrast the republicans have had. ted cruz and mike lee from walking side by side. the cameras were going off, reporters surrounding them, a lot of attention on those two men even though they have gotten anger and push back from some of their fellow republicans in the senate they're getting a lot of attention, and that is winning them a lot of interest. and so americans know their names in a way they certainly didn't do just a few weeks ago.
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>> libby stand by for just a second. i want to ask you more about the house vote. what are we hearing from the white house? >> i don't think you have to be clairvoyant to know we'll hear from the president of the united states sooner or later after this bill stumbles its way through the senate and then through the house of representatives. the idea that the house republican is going to procedure go all the procedural advantages they have tonight and throw this thing on the floor. i've never seen a capitulation like we have seen. john boehner gave an interview in cincinnati, he's from that area. he said they fought the good fight and january 15th is the next deadline for funding the government. we're only kicking the can down the road.
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boy, am i sick of that cliché. and then there is no indication that anything is going to change. invoke a motion wh where they're going to talk to each other and they'll get in the same room and iron out their differences but still the same schisms remain. what we've seen over the last several weeks an unified, we've talked about this a divided
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>> i think that they have received insurances of that, and as we talked about earlier, it gets a little one side washington and maybe inside of the taxicab zone. but the fact that they're not going to go through the rules committee and establish the procedures, it's the vehicle by which the majority exercises.
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so they're going to throw it out on the floor, and it's quite obvious that the republicans have had enough of this fight and they're going to try to live to fight another day. >> and libby, all of us are surprised that john boehner and the republicans, especially the republicans in the house, okay, we're going to give up on this and let it roll. >> the house republicans, the conservatives would love to keep fighting, but once the speaker of the house says to let it go through, the votes are there, and the wind is out of their sails, i think that senator cruz and lee who have more power in the senate, they could have blocked the consent. and they could have stepped up and done something, but they didn't. they took a moment to speechify on the floor, and rail against the healthcare law, but it seemed that the writing was on the wall.
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at this point, if they put up the roadblocks, they would be targeted as the individuals, not just the party, but the individuals who caused the last melt down as the debt crisis finally hit. it wasn't worth it for the party. and we're seeing things move forward now. so to live to fight another day, we'll see all of this go on in a little while. so it's focus on the next battle and close up shop for now, and get over this debt ceiling issue. because to have that singly pointed out and have that debt increase, it would be hard to recover. >> it is the 11th hour, and the american people have been through this for 16 days, and hearing that there's a deal and not a deal and up and down, so the actual vote will be important for a lot of americans to say it's over, at least for a
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little while. so what's happening now? in the senate, right now, what's happening in the senate is they're beginning to vote on the actual bill. they already voted to close out debate. and they're going to vote on the actual bill in the senate to avoid default. it goes to the house after that, and we may hear from the president in between. wall street liked what it was hearing today, and stocks sord. the dow jumped 205 and the nasdaq 45 points. and rit in washington in the thick of it, but ali, before that, let's find out what's going on in the senate. actually, i don't think there's anything here in the senate. so ali, let's talk to you. so is this the deal that wall street has been waiting for? >> look, it's one of those
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situations where wall street wasn't fully bought into the idea that something bad was going to happen. so we saw it last week tapering down. and we got a little bit of a response, and i wouldn't call that robust. this isn't a robust deal. it's just putting it off for another day as libby was mentioning, but if this deal didn't go through, i think that tomorrow would have been a very ugly day on the market. >> let me ask my producers in control room, did you say that the senate has passed the deal and they have all of the votes needed? it looks like it is over the top, ali, and they're waiting for a few senators to come in and finish up the votes. >> finish it off. >> essentially, it passed the senate and now it moves over to the house. >> again, from a financial
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perspective, we have seen this game played, and we want to make sure that it's done. it looks very likely, 10 after 7:00 on the east coast, if this thing passes, i'm guessing another 90 minutes to two hours before this is done, and the president passes it, and you might see that reaction on international markets, to say that the u.s. had the sense to not go over the edge, to stop at the last moment, and clearly, this is all political as we know, and the u.s. is not going to default on payments. it's not ever not going to pay money that it owes, and that should give confidence to the world. but this has done damage to the we talked to a home builder and consumers, and they say they're pulling back and we have seen the evidence because they're uncertain about the future. lack of confidence doesn't have to be tangible.
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if put your money back in your wallet. >> the market was so high today, considering the last few days, you have to wonder what's going to happen in the next few, even with the deal. >> i was talking to somebody a few minutes ago even on my show, and they don't think that there are going to be big gains related to this on the market in the coming days. you might see gains in other days. the s&p is up 19% this year. we're in a strong market anyway, not a strong housing market, we're creating jobs, investors are relating to that. and they're tired of it, they're fatigued and hoping that they actually get a budget cut. that's a good sign. if these guys get a budget cut in december, that's something that we haven't done in four years in america. that's a good sign that there's maybe a deal to be had in january. >> it would be interesting to see if that happens, and to see if it does.
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but going back to libby in a second. is as we said, apparently this bill has passed the senate and is now headed for the house of representatives. can we talking about process, libby? what has now? >> it has now passed the senate. and they're skipping a lot of procedural steps that they would usually do, like taking it to a rules committee to hash out things, and the fact that they're expediting it is significant. with power struggles in washington. >> 18 days, the bill was reported as passed, and as amended. the title amendment is agreed to. without objection, the p motions agreed to. >> so it's official, libby.
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you're talking about the process, so from here, a lot of people are watching this, and how long does it take to go to the house? >> it could be faster or it could drag on a lib. we have to wait for it to get to the house floor, so stay tuned, we expect it to get there fairly quickly. but in the meantime, you'll start to see a lot of other wheels start to turn. like senate democrats talk about what it means it them. we have to watch the house floor and see how quickly they are able to move. >> we'll talk about, is there a debate that will go on at the house floor for this bill? >> it will be an hour before the members get up and talk. and they will congratulate themselves and come for a moment of coming together, but we'll see that before a final vote takes place, and let's talk about in the senate, to see who
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voted for clocher, which means to move forward with the bill. and them we saw a handful vote no on moving forward. and the same republicans voting no on final passage. and it's not much of a surprise. some of the ones that you would expect, like senator cruz, but also marco rubio, republican of florida, thinking perhaps about his aspirations in politics at the national level and what he wants to represent in the republican party. we see a smattering of republicans from other states, including rand paul. >> when john boehner spoke before the caucus today, he got a standing ovation, but after they left the caucus, moderates
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had tough words not just for john boehner, but house republicans. and is this continuing? >> you heard tea party republicans talking positively of john boehner, and so many questions, number one, how much power does speaker boehner have going forward? can he retain his speakership? someone might surface like eric cantor, who -- >> let me interrupt you just a second, harry reid is talking about the vote. >> to make sure that we don't have another one of these crises. manufactured crises. she was called upon by the democratic caucus, the chair of the super committee, and she worked so hard. and we were so blessed. as you know, from all of the experiences the president had, and i've had with speaker
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boehner, he was never able to take that step to accomplish this. i want to express here what will be on the senate floor, the support of my three leaders. as everyone knows, my caucus has been lock strong together. we have worked with the president. we have been a real team. but when we have been able to be a team has made the bigger teamwork. and i'm grateful for it. no one will ever know the work that we do off the floor, behind the scenes, and i'm not a one-man show. i depend on these three good senators for virtually everything that we're able to accomplish. >> the majority leader of the united states senate, harry reid, talking about the vote in the senate. the bill has passed that would open the government avoid a
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default. the president will speak at 8:25 eastern time.
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>> welcome back to aljazeera america, and we're following the story in washington d.c. the government shut down, and the avoidance of the default. apparently is moving in a direction. the united states senate just passed a bill and it goes to the house of representatives. at 8:25 eastern time. president of the united states will speak, and we'll listen to that. let's hear what some of the u.s. democrats are saying right now, dick durban of illinois. >> let us just make sure that this is just the beginning. >> thank you. today is not a happy day, it's a somber day. we finally achieved our goal, but frankly, we ended up where
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we started. when we started, we said we would do three things, fund the government, pay our bills, and agree to negotiate. we started there, and that's where we ended up. that's exactly what the law does, no more, no less. so the bottom line is, millions suffer, millions didn't get paychecks. the economy was dragged down. and confidence and faith in the united states credit and in the united states itself around the world was shaken. so this is not a happy day. it's a somber day. because at the end of the day, we never should have gone through what we went through. >> senator chuck schumer is speaking after the senate vote
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to reopen the government. the president is going to speak in 5 minutes, and we mentioned that this is sort of an interesting time for him to speak since the house still hasn't vote oded on this. >> that's true, and i think that the overwhelming vote in the net is an indication of how this is going to go in the house. with only the hardcore conservatives voting against this bill, the president figured he might as well get into this new cycle and into the briefing room. this is the plan all along the course of the day. john, we didn't expect the president to be magnanimous in victory. but very careful today. nobody wins under these circumstances, and they're being very careful at the white house not to make anybody feel bad. but there are two reasons for that. number one, in 90 days, we'll
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have to go through this exercise again, and number two, it's obvious that the president and the white house and his aids, the democrats have to point out the fact that the republicans have been routed this week. they utterly capitulated to the democrats who have kept that unified front over the course of this impasse, i guess we should say -- call it a crisis at this point in the u.s. government. but you and i have covered it in the last several days. president obama playing the outside game. he has been keeping the pressure on public appearances around town, using every messaging trick in the toolbox, having the white house sending him to the sandwich shop down the street, no ransom, and no hostage taking, and meantime, harry reid
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has been the bad guy in the senate, saying no to every republican, and they have not been there. >> let me read the key points being listed by the senate. and thousand it will go to the house in a few minutes. the bill would fund the government until january 15th and pay our bills until february 7th. but the december 13th deadline. and the bill ensures income verification for those participating in the affordable care act. so why is it so important to put the affordable care act into this bill? >> sorry, why are republicans getting into the bill? it's something that they were pushing for all along. it made it very token. it calls for income verifications for people who are
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going to get subsidies under the law. about you they said this could have been done just through some of the office work. it really didn't have to require a major law change. but there it is, it's a minor detail and the white house could sacrifice and let go of, and yet the republicans got at least that one token item. the bigger reality is that they didn't get specifics. they didn't get the items they were looking for and pushing for, and it really distracted, in fact, the nation's focus from the federal healthcare law. all of this is coming down the pipe. and government workers are suddenly told you're furloughed, and obamacare, as they call it, was starting to hit key dates, including the opening of these marketplaces and exchanges. and there were problems with the role of that. and the online component of that. but that was virtually ignored because there was so much focus
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on the shutdown, so a lot of republicans say that it backfired. >> before i interrupted you the last time, i wanted to talk about this division in the house. and the difficulty that the republicans are going to have coming together. what challenges do they face? >> well, there are these factions in the parties. and it was pushed to the front of the american consciousness this time around. and certain leaders like senator cruz got a lot of attention, and a lot of fundraising, and we were talking about the picture of senator cruz and senator lee, the two tea party guys walking into the chamber and virtually with a campaign poster with their run for office. so you have that part of the party. and then you have the modern republicans, working on the party line, and they're frustrated by the process and
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frustrated by taking the game off of some of the things that they are trying to work on. woo more women voters and more diversity to their caucus, and that has been the showdown. >> clearly, it's 25 minutes after the hour, and we're getting a 2 minute warning for the president of the united states. so libby, let me speak with you, and let's go to michael for a second. and what do you think that the president will say? >> i know it's going to be a brief statement. he won't be taking questions. he'll be appearing in the briefing room of the white house and stepping out of the west wing and to the podium. we don't expect him to rub their faces in it, the republicans, but we expect him to call for further cooperation, and it sets a good example that the american people are tired and compromise needs to be a virtue once again in american politics, and i think you're going to see the
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president keep a high minded tone and not the victory dance that we have been talking about or the end zone, and clearly the president has come out on top, but you're not going to hear him or any people using those tones. >> we're watching it see the exact schedule. we will see house members, to some degree, around tomorrow. this is the bulk of their legislative calendar and what they had to get done. we heard senator reid tonight, next step, immigration, so whether or not the senate democrats can get anything else on their agenda, other than just marching to the next battle over the budget, the committee that's going to be formedded and as mike sackerra talked about, we just kicked the can down the road. we are going to see another one of these showdowns go off in
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another month's time. so it's a big question mark. >> so there's the briefing room. the president should speak in 15 minutes, and at the same time, the u.s. senators, the democrats, the leadership of the senate are speaking at the same time as the president of the united states, making their cases to the american people that they have passed this bill. it goes on to the house of representatives. and they expect the house to pass that bill later on tonight. in between time, let's listen for a second to harry reid. >> i asked chairman ryan to meet with me tomorrow morning, we can have breakfast and start conversations about how to move forward. >> breakfast will be a key factor in. >> no, we are not. >> let me go back to mike at the
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white house, and we're waiting for the president at the briefing room. and mike, you said this is going to be a short statement. and clearly, it's important to get in the new cycle early before the house votes because it could take a couple of hours, right? >> yes, it coul it could, but ik that they're briefed on this. >> now, the senate has stopped speaking and the president is. >> tonight, the republicans and democrats in congress have come together around an agreement to reopen our government and remove the threat of default from our economy. the senate has voted to approve this agreement and the democrats and the republicans in the house still have an important vote to take, but i want to thank the leaders of both parties for getting us to this point. once this agreement arrives on my desk, i will sign it immediately. we'll begin reopening our government immediately. and we can begin to lift this cloud of uncertainty and uneasy
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from our businesses and from the american people. i'll have more to say about this tomorrow. and i've got some thoughts about how we can move forward in the remainder of the year and stay focused on the job at hand. because there's a lot of work ahead of us, including our need to earn back the trust of the american people that has been lost over the last few weeks, and we can begin to do that by addressing the real issues that they care about. i've said it before and i say it again, i'm eager to work with anybody, democrat, republican, house or senate members on any idea that will grow our economy, create new jobs, strengthen the middle class and get our fiscal house in order for the long-term. i never believed that democrats have a monopoly on good ideas, and despite the differences and the issue of shutting down our government, i am convinced that democrats and republicans can
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work together to make progress for america. in fact, there are things that we know will help strengthen our economy that we can get done before this year is out. we still need to fix our broken immigration system, we still need to pass a farm bill, and with the shutdown behind us, and the budget committees forming, we now have an opportunity to focus on a sensible budget that is responsible, that is fair, and that helps hard working people all across this country. and we could get all of these things done, even this year, if everybody comes together in the spirit of how we're going to move this country forward and put the last three weeks behind us. that's what i believe the american people are looking for, not a focus on politics, not a focus on elections, but a focus on the concrete steps that can improve their lives. that's going to be my focus, and i'm looking forward to congress
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doing the same. but once again, i want to thank the leadership for coming together and getting this done. hopefully next time it won't be in the 11th hour. one of the things that i said throughout this process is, we have to get out of of the habit of governing by crisis, and my hope and expectation is that everybody has learned that there's no reason why we can't work on the issues at hand, why we can't disagree between the parties, while still being agreeable. and making sure that we're not inflicting harm on the american people when we do have disagreements. so hopefully that's a lesson that will be internalized. and not just by me, but also by republicans and democrats, thank you very much. >> the president of the united
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states, saying that he will pass the bill as it comes to him. and there's a lot to accomplish in the first of the year, including the immigration bill and the farm bill and he wants to work on the budget. mike any surprises here? >> no, it's a largely conciliatory tone by the president, and the president mentioned getting away from politics. the calendar 2014 is an election year for congress, midterm election, so this window here in the fall is what the president has to work with republicans if this is going to happen. if the fever has broken here in washington, and i'm sure that you can find plenty of people who have, but the bill is languishing in the house of representatives. and once it passes the senate, the farm bill is a trillion dollars goody bag. it passes every six years, and
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they're unable to do that mostly because they're taking things away from members, and not adding them into districts in the country. and of course the budget that has the dynamic change here in washington, to the extent that the house can pass a unified budget for the first time in five years. you're going to find a lot of doubters, but on the bill that passed overwhelmingly, who was voting against that, some of the 2016 presidential candidates, all of them conservatives, and why did they vote against it? they're looking to get the favor of the republican base, and it frankly revials the president's obamacare, and these are rens republicans that turn out for the 2016 election, paul and rubio, and what does it show you? there's a belief that the
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republican party is still fundamentally to the right. and the tea party has a great deal of influence. the same party that led the party to the precipice, 41%, an all-time low, and i believe it was the nbc wall street journal poll at the end of the process. so there's healing to do in the republican party. but no evidence that the dynamic is going to change unless there's a reckoning, between the tea party and the so-called establishment representative, by business interests here, urging republicans to knock it off, to do something to get the government back on track to get the debt limit lifted, unless there's a resolution of that conflict. >> so the focus shifts to the white house to the house of representatives. and the house will vote on this bill that has been passed by the senate. and the president said that he will pass it immediately and we expect him to pass it tonight. let's bring in shawn, from
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philadelphia, and shawn, thank you for waiting around for all of this to happen and unfold, i appreciate it. give me your reaction, wall street had a great day today. and what's going to be the reaction in the coming days in the market to what's happening tonight? >> i think it's a sense of relief that people have been waiting for this to be resolved, the cost of continuing to fight just too high for the tea party. and therefore, they gave in. keep in mind that this represents an ideological clash between the tea party and the rest of congress, whereby they're trying to rein in government spending, trying to wayne in entitlements, and reduce the debt, and it got to the point where the cost of the fight was just too much. and now they will live to fight another day, that being early next year. >> talk about the cost to the economy.
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>> we heard figures about long-term costs, but you have to bear in mind that the biggest issue that the tea party is trying to address is reducing the entitlements. fortunately, they had the foresight not to shut down the government, and who knows whether they had the actual power to do that. but you don't want to question the credit quality of the u.s. because it filters through the entire economy. you saw the short-term rates spike up a little bit, not as much as the last clash, but you want to see a more organized fashion for reducing the government obligations. it was not the last go around, but the entitlements more than anything else. but again, the u.s. is not alone in fighting he's battles. most of the western world is right now. >> talk about the warning that went out yesterday and the
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concern that it might have had on capitol hill from some of these congressmen and senators, who said that they took a second look, and do you think that had a bigger impact on it all? >> it certainly reminds us of the cot of not paying the obligations on time. in fact, in this case, there was a negative watch, and then the first step to downgrade, i think that the downgrade would not have happened unless there was a lack of payment and i don't think anybody wanted that to occur. perhaps the silver lining in all of this is that we'll be on a better path in a year or so, reestablishing the credibility of the u.s. the currency is given a lot more leeway than a lot of on countries in a similar position. >> a lot of people talk about the damage done to the u.s. reputation when it comes to
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economic issues. do you feel that's long-term damage and it's very serious damage? >> no, not at all. i think it's a very healthy sane that we're having these debates. in other countries, the debates would be quashed. i think that it's healthy that both parties are able to express their views, and at the same time, this thing was solved. it was solved the last go around and in this go around. and major issues are being put on the table. and they solved this time or even early next year. it's probably about a five year process to address these overtime. and ironically, perhaps, obamacare might provide the vehicle for run away healthcare expenditures. we'll see about this. >> so you would expect the congress to deal with entitlements between now and
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january? >> i think that they will begin to talk about them. a lot of people focus just on the government debt. the april $17 trillion in debt. and from an analyst standpoint, that's only half of the picture. the major issue is the unfunded social security liability to help the medicaid, medicare, and the u.s. is not alone in trying to address these problems, and i think this is the first step in, as i said, probably a five year process in reining in some of the costs overtime. >> thank you very much. our special coverage of the votes in congress continues, and in just a moment, we'll be right back with the debate in the house.
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>> welcome back to aljazeera america. here are the top stories, from furloughed workers to shutred monuments, the 16 day shutdown has taken a toll on people
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across america. take social security, for example, there are 67 million americans who collect benefit checks every month, and it directly affects those benefits. aljazeera has been talking to americans from coast-to-coast, watching with growing concern. we have allen in portland. and jennifer in los angeles, and once again, in new orleans, talking about social security concerns with seniors, what are they telling you? >> john, you no he, i think that the president encapsulated it when he spoke, and a lot of the folks in new orleans are saying exactly what he said. they're looking for concrete steps to move forward. and they don't care who provides those steps. they're obviously very frustrated right now when it comes to the government shutdown, but when it comes to social security, this has been a concern for quite some time.
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and obviously a big concern for seniors across this country. when you consider that 85% of all americans over 65 years old get some sort of social security benefits. so there's a great concern. and talking to people about, regardless of the shutdown, if we don't increase the debt ceiling, what is going to happen? what's that going to mean for social security for them? >> a lot of people who aren't going to be able to survive without it, making house payments, car insurance. >> i just feel very confident that they're not going to attack social security. that's why the insurance policy, i paid into it, so i should get a return. >> yeah, so there's surprising optimism among some people that don't think that's going to
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happen. but you have to consider the fact that these are people who have only known giving into social security and getting the benefits of those. so there's a big concern, john, when it comes to the future. certainly in the next few months, what's going to happen. there seems to be good news on all sides tonight. for what has happened, but these people are still reticent about what it's going to mean for them. one is that the government is going to be able to fund this, and the other thing is that they will have to make hard decisions. will that affect social security? only time will tell of course. >> let me go to jennifer out in los angeles, and she has been talking to consumers in pasadena and what are they saying about the repeat i washington. >> here's an interesting figure.
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5% of americans carry at least one credit card. and 44% of them have revolving debt, which means this they don't pay off the balance each month. and they could be greatly impacted if there's no deal. it sound like there might be a deal to extend the debt limit. but people we spoke to say what does that mean? is that just a temporary truth? could we find ourselves back in the same position in a couple of months, wondering if our credit card interest rates could go up? on average, the interest rates that they're paying now is about 15%. one economist that i spoke to earlier said that interest rates could go up a couple of points, 17, 18%, and the people we poke to said that would frankly be devastating. here's how they would go up if there was a default. quite simply, it would cause the government to borrow more money. they would pass it on to the banks and consumers, and the
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folks we spoke to in pasadena said if interest rates went up on credit cards, that would put them in a world of hurt. >> it would be devastating because i have enough issues making my payments a month, so that would just kill me. >> i can barely even pay my minimum payments right now, so it would raise that, and i wouldn't get anywhere. >> now, john, even for those who have fixed interest rates on their credit cards, they could be affected. because banks can raise interest rates whenever they feel like it, but because of the contradict act from 2009, banks would have to give a 45 day notice that they're planning to raise interest rates. and this would give consumers the option to pay off their revolving debt. but bottom line, people are worried that they could find themselves right back here in
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the situation, and it would be devastating, like we heard people say earlier. >> thank you very much. and let's move up the pacific coast to the northwest. and the shutdown has been keeping loggers off the job, and they're taking it to court. and allen, does this lawsuit go forward even if the government reopens? >> good question, john, and it does go forward. a federal district judge in southern oregon expected to take a look at it tomorrow. elements of the timber industry essentially suing for a temporary injunction. they want to stop the government from stopping them from doing their work on federal land. they say the shutdown and what has happened with the contracts they signed with the federal government hasn't happened before. it's illegal and it has disrupted their business. >> he went out early last week to companies holding federal
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logging contracts, stop cutting. the disruption in timber harvesting, it will take days or weeks for logging companies to get their people back in the woods and working at pre-shutdown levels. >> short-term, we have had people disconnected from their jobs, and they have had to get away from federal contracts and look for work elsewhere if they haven't. and they have had mobilization costs to get out of the woods and onto other jobs, and we have had a disruption in timber. >> three logging companies sued, saying that the federal government had no right to break other contracts that have already been signed. that happened in three shutdowns and logging continued and they want clarification for everybody involved. >> that's why this lawsuit that we're bringing is so important, in my opinion, to get a ruling on this. and we'll have other shutdowns
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in the future, but we need to set a policy and direction for these federal agencies, forest service and blm, how you're going to handle contracts into the future should you have a shutdown. >> and no comment from regional bosses with the forest service and blm today. they work out of the federal building behind me. it is locked up tight. and nobody is answering the phones today. john? >> let me ask you, are people getting word? looks like there's a deal on the we can. it looks like the senate has passed a bill and the house is about to pass it, and is there any reaction from the folks you're talking to in >> reporter: there's a sense that something is going to happen. we talked to a lot of people on the streets of portland today about the impact it had on their lives, and congress, and the reaction to the first question, had it had any real impact on their lives, and it was varied. most people saying that they
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haven't made any changes personally because of what was going on in washington d.c., but when you talk about the folks in washington d.c. and how they have handled this thing, you get a full bore blast about the process and how it has played out. people are irritated by what they're seeing 3,000 miles away on the east coast. >> no, it's not, allen in portland, oregon tonight. and thank you very much. so the u.s. senate has passed a bill to reopen the government. and the vote brings us one step closer to ending the government shutdown. and the house will pick it up tonight for final passage, but let's look at what the president had to say just a moment ago. actually, we don't have that byte, but libby, what's next to the house? >> we'll watch the house vote
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shortly, john, and interesting dynamics are in play. we expect passage, but it's not a done deal yet. we do not want to write the final notes of the script yet. we expect passage, and that's because the republicans are going to vote for it, and put it over the threshold that it needs, there's something about procedure tonight. and rule, and that's a rule that goes back to a former house speaker, dennis hasser, and it says if the speaker doesn't bring a bill before the whole floor, unless he knows that his caucus will vote for it. the hasser rule is going to be thrown out the window, because we don't know if the majority of the republicans will vote for this bill, it's very questionable, but enough will to get it over the threshold. we have seen some pass and weigh in on it and chuck schumer is
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weighing in on the negotiation. >> so the bottom line is, millions suffered. millions suffer, millions didn't get paychecks. the economy was dragged down. and confidence and faith in the united states credit and in the united states itself around the world was shaken. so this is not a happy day. it's a somber day. >> so senator schumer not doing what you would call a victory lap, john. and we heard from president obama, serious, forward-looking, and we also heard from some republicans on the senate floor right before the vote tonight. senator ted cruz, a man who started this all a couple of weeks ago when he said he wouldn't support funding the federal government unless it came with the strings attached of defunding the federal healthcare law, or obamacare,
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and here's senator cruz today. >> this is a terrible deal today. but it's a terrible deal for the american people. but at the same time, the path forward as the american people continue to rise up, we're going to turn this around. we're going to restore the ability of people who are struggling to climb the economic ladder and achieve the american dream. and we're going to stop the number-one job killer in this country, and that's obamacare. >> 18 republicans voted against passage of this. and 81 members voted for passage, more than enough. they needed a majority to get out of the senate. and many republicans did align themselves with democrats to support the bill. we saw the faction of the cruz republicans, more conservative, siding against it. >> listen to what the president had to say just a few minutes ago after the senate vote.
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one of the things that i said throughout this process is, we have to get out of of the habit of governing by crisis, and my hope and expectation is that everybody has learned that there's no reason why we can't work on the issues at hand, why we can't disagree between the parties, while still being agreeable. and making sure that we're not inflicting harm on the american people when we do have disagreements. so hopefully that's a lesson that will be internalized. and not just by me, but also by democrats and republicans and not only the leaders, thank you very much. >> let me bring in rachel bay, and welcome, it's good to see i tonight. >> thanks for having me. i -->> this is a huge loss for
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republicans. i mean, the government has been shut down now for 16 days. and in a couple of hours, the government could potentially default on its loans, and this has been going on for a really long time. it has affected the economy and affected americans, and all in the name of obamacare. the republicans wanted it delayed, repealed first, and then they wanted it delayed. and didn't get either of those things, and a lot of people thought that they would get a concession, and a group of republicans stood together and decided to only delay or repeal obamacare. john boehner said that america won't default on its loans in pay for -- he couldn't get his caucus behind it, so he couldn't get the deal on the floor. so he had to toss it back to the
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senate. and the senate republicans were pors forced to accept a deal and they got nothing in return, so this is a huge defeat for republicans. they have nothing to show for the three weeks that the government has been shut down. >> and we hear that john boehner got a standing ovation from his caucus today. and what does that mean? what does that tell us? what are we supposed to draw from this? >> it means that they're standing united even in their defeat. so it's interesting the because a lot of the very conservative republicans, the tea party republicans in the house have come out and applauded john boehner for being willing to shut down the government and keep it shut down for a couple of weeks. a lot of people thought he's not going to do that. a lot of people thought he was going to go to nancy pelosi and make a deal, but he didn't, he held out and a lot of the conservatives are applauding him, though they didn't get anything close to what they wanted. >> so what's next?
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once the house will supposedly pass this tonight, we hope. if they pass it tonight, then will rens and democrats sit down in the coming weeks? >> you know, that's a great question. i think -- i don't think a lot of things have changed. on the one hand, yes, this is a teachable moment for a lot of conservative republicans. a lot of them have come away saying, perhaps it's better it stand united and try to negotiate rather than trying to demand repeal of missing, and in the first place, they didn't have a very good prospect of getting repealed. and in that case, it might be a teachable moment. but you have to think about the 30 or so republicans from really conservative districts in the united states, look what i did with the affordable care act. these guys will be cheered when they go home. and if they get applause, which
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they're likely to get from their constituents, there's a good opportunity going forward that they're going to do the same thing to appease those constituents. >> i have a little over a minute, are you saying that nothing has changed in the last weeks in. >> i'm saying that this could be the first of a few to come in the next few months. i would not be surprised if we're here again in a few weeks. >> could we go right up to the brink and then they capitulate again? >> what i see, in the future, i wouldn't be surprised if we take it up-to-the-minute like we're doing today. and the disagreements are going to be just as big. they haven't addressed things like entitlements that the republicans want to address. and i think that obamacare, that's something that a lot of republicans step away from for a time. because they realize that they're not going to get what they want specifically. but they're going to use these fiscal deals to try to get the things they want like entitlement reform. >> it's going to be an
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interesting few months as we watch it come down the pike. rachel, thank you for joining us tonight. and i want to review what has happened tonight. so the united states senate has voted to reopen the government and avoid a default of the u.s. government. from the capital tonight, the house of representatives is expected to vote on a bill, the same bill that went to the senate. but before that happens, there will be a vigorous debate. but it will be on the noor of the house, and we're likely to hear from some of the tea party republicans that vike and casey have been talking about tonight. they are clearly encouraged by what's happening in the last few days, and are clearly not going to stop at this moment. but for now, in the meantime, we'll be back with more on aljazeera right after this.
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the u.s. senate has pass a bill to a vert vert a shutdown and avoid a default. they will pick up a bill later on tonight for final passage. white house says in upcoming budget negotiations everything has been to the table after the senate applauds a compromise to re-open the government, a deal he believes will remove of default. the stock market raised the roof on news of the debt deal. the s&p closing at near record highs. the dow jumped 205 points.

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